{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"9444256","dateCreated":"1235332621","smartDate":"Feb 22, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"candithomson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/candithomson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/candithomson-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/thomsonenglish.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/9444256"},"dateDigested":1532287454,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"NAB Crystal Radio Award Nominations","description":"Nominate at least one of the podcasts for a National Association of Broadcasters Crystal Radio Awards. Of course, this will need to be an award for one of the podcasts you have listened to. To make this process more creative, we will make up our own awards. Possibilities might include "The Wacky Like Robin Williams Award," "Best Use of Sound Effects," "Most Emotional Broadcast," "Most Creative Use of the Facts," and whatever else you come up with. Write a paragraph on our wiki discussion page to nominate a podcast for an original award. You are expected to supply reasons as to why the podcast nominated should receive the award.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"9857798","body":"The first nomination, I believe, should be of most historically acurate. The Davis\/Gorson project was very well done with a lot of information with details and times. Though the brodcast could be a little bit more enthusiastic, their information was solid. The next award goes to the funniest podcast. Selvaggio\/Hoffman. I don't know how but those two perfectly portrayed 1960's hippies on the radio. Their diologue was perfect, and it gave me a good laugh. Next up is the historically inacurate award, which goes to BOOO45 (AKA Chris Varisco and friend). Remember Chris, wall-mart didn't exist in the 1960's. And last but not least the award for best voice acting goes to O'Hare\/Carter. Their perfect recreation of british accents on their podcast were absolutely stunning. I don't know how they did it but cudo's to you guys.","dateCreated":"1236268930","smartDate":"Mar 5, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"TLecho15","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/TLecho15","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266290360\/TLecho15-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9884598","body":"Selvaggio and Hoffman definitely deserve the Most Original Podcast Award. It's humorous, appropriate for the time period, clever, and unique amongst the rest of the podcasts. There simply aren't any others like it. It easily wins the Funniest Podcast Award as well, and possibly even the Most Realistic Podcast Award. They did a great job with inflection, which made it felt authentic and fresh. I also think Pat's voice was hilarious in his podcast with Varisco and crew, and is in my opinion, right up there in terms of funniness.","dateCreated":"1236298698","smartDate":"Mar 5, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"Jeff_Kustra","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Jeff_Kustra","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266547516\/Jeff_Kustra-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9891658","body":"I nominate Ty and Breana for "the most entertaining". This podcast kept me listening due to their creative accents. Their podcast was the most entertaining out of all of them which is why it deserves this award.","dateCreated":"1236306789","smartDate":"Mar 5, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"caseycarr","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/caseycarr","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9891864","body":"the podcast above is by shanna szramowski, i did it on caseys computer and it got screwed up.","dateCreated":"1236307043","smartDate":"Mar 5, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"caseycarr","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/caseycarr","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9894450","body":"I nominate michelle and jon's podcast for the "most professional" award. These two were very factual throughout their presentation, while still keeping their composure through it all. During the entire podcast they maintained a sense of professionalism that was exceptioinal. Just their voice inflections on the podcast reminded me so much of a talk show that you would hear on the radio today.","dateCreated":"1236311780","smartDate":"Mar 5, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"breannakreutzer","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breannakreutzer","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/breannakreutzer-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9907878","body":"I would like to nominate Adam and Mike's podcast for the "most comedic" award. It was indeed, as the title of the award denotes, the most comedic. It was very entertaining to listen to, whilst still keeping to the facts.","dateCreated":"1236354706","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"BobBisceglia","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/BobBisceglia","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1235154513\/BobBisceglia-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9910182","body":"I would nominate Mike and Adam for being most like real life in that time period. They really got the vibe right for this project. It kept my attention, and was easy to listen too. They threw in their own touch!","dateCreated":"1236357686","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"WheresKirstenJ","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/WheresKirstenJ","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1206743829\/WheresKirstenJ-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9910688","body":"I nominate Adam and Mike's podcast for the most entertaining and accurate award. Their podcast was very entertaining, it kept my attention and I really enjoyed listening to it. Also, the information that they used was acurate and good information for the podcast. I really think that they did a good job on even the voices and the language that was used during this time.","dateCreated":"1236358257","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"courtneydavis18","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/courtneydavis18","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9912460","body":"I agree that Adam and Mike are the funniest. They did a great job.","dateCreated":"1236360866","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"toddbrown31","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/toddbrown31","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220539934\/toddbrown31-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9912638","body":"My computer messed up...their total make up of the podcast was not only etertaining but also very realistic. They script was funny and the over all make up of the podcast was well made.","dateCreated":"1236361164","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"toddbrown31","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/toddbrown31","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220539934\/toddbrown31-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9918760","body":"I would like to nominate mike and bobby's podcast for "most realistic". I would have to agree with everyone else's comment that it really does make it seem like you are back in that time period. good job!","dateCreated":"1236370440","smartDate":"Mar 6, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"mikehoffmann32","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mikehoffmann32","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266209563\/mikehoffmann32-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"9931184","body":"I would have to say I nominate ty and breanna's podcast as "the best over seas" podcast. Their english accents and talk around the world give it another perspective then in America. It also was funny and wel made.","dateCreated":"1236433694","smartDate":"Mar 7, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"EmilyGorcsan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/EmilyGorcsan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":9}]},{"id":"6198989","dateCreated":"1224160415","smartDate":"Oct 16, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"candithomson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/candithomson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/candithomson-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/thomsonenglish.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/6198989"},"dateDigested":1532287455,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Anticipating THE CRUCIBLE","description":"Write about one of your responses on the survey.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"7990069","body":"I still disagree with the statement "The difference between right and right and wrong is always clear" for mainly the same reasons as before. However, reading the Crucible gave me a few more reasons why this statement. For example should you tell the truth and die or lie and go to jail but save your life so mabey you can do some more good things in your life. The choice between right and wrong is not always clear and i stand by my answer from a few months ago.","dateCreated":"1230054575","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"MaxBondi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MaxBondi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990071","body":"Before reading the crucible i believed that the difference between right and wrong is always clear and i stand by my statement after reading the book. In the crucible, not everyone had the same view of right and wrong even though the purtian faith determined what was right and wrong. There still is not difinitve line between right and wrong and i dont think that there ever will be. Complex situations call for reasoning between what is right and wrong depending on moral values and personal beliefs. It will never be the same line between right and worng for everyone in the world because we were all given an individual mind to draw our individual thoughts.","dateCreated":"1230054583","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"michellewittmer","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/michellewittmer","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990079","body":"After reading the Crucible, I still agree with my statement that "the difference between right and wrong is clear" is wrong. Even though people like john proctor and rebecca nurse did the "right thing" and told the truth, they still got hanged for it. Everyone else that did the "wrong thing" got to live and had a small punishment. I think that dependent on the consequences and\/or outcome changes what the right and wrong thing is to do. Also, everyones opinion on right and wrong is different so the difference between them cannot truly be "clear".","dateCreated":"1230054612","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"caseycarr","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/caseycarr","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990081","body":"Before, I believed that "Justice is best determined in the court of law" that this statement was completely true! Yet, after reading the crucible I relaize that sometimes as in the book, the justice system is currupt and that justice can only truely be found through the hands of a few "law-less individuals." These individuals, become something more than law-less, when they are in the process of hindering the proceedings of not so very lawful judical system. Sometimes, in the course of nature, we have to take justice into our own hands, but only when we have push to the wall with no other feasible choice.","dateCreated":"1230054624","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"ty177","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ty177","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220537108\/ty177-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990091","body":"I still believe there is not just one way to interprate the Bible. In the book, Rev. Parris and the judges always referred to the Bible as their justification for what they were doing, yet that same book forbids killing another human being. In fact, almost every character on the aggressive side of the trials (i.e. the judges, Parris, the Putnams)kept talking about the Bible, while they were destroying what the Bible tells us is sacred, human life.","dateCreated":"1230054661","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"kentonganster","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kentonganster","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990093","body":"Before reading the Crucible I felt the statement "there is only one way to interprate the bible" was very wrong. Now having read this novel I still stand by my statement because every person is entitled to their own interpration. It will not all be exactly the same. The Puritan views were extremely uniform and harsh which may have led to these Salem witch trials. In the first amendment of the first bill of rights says we have freedom of speech and religion. There are numerous ways a person can view the bible.","dateCreated":"1230054661","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"EmilyGorcsan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/EmilyGorcsan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990099","body":"honestly i still agree with the first thought i originally had about there being a big difference between right and wrong because the characters in this novel are always caught in a perdicament whether to do the right thing and die for it or lie and move on with their lives as sinners in this "O so holy community" which i thought was total crap. i could not really understand how these christian people thought it was right to hang those who denied witchcraft and let those go who admitted it. i just cant really get over how dumb these people must of been thinking this and how there was only a few sensible ones portrayed in the novel such as reverand Hale and Proctor.","dateCreated":"1230054671","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"JohnNugent","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/JohnNugent","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990105","body":"After reading The Crucible, I still agree with my opionions from before reading the book. I think that there are more than one way to interpret the Bible and you cannot force people to believe and understand the Bible the same way. Everyone can have their own opinions on how they understand the Bible because not everyone thinks the same way so you cannot force people to think and believe how you do.","dateCreated":"1230054695","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"courtneydavis18","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/courtneydavis18","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990113","body":"After reading the crucible, I still fimly believe that you should die for what you truly believe in than live in a town with bunch of fakes who tell you what is wrong and what is right to their standards. One of the sweetest quotes ever said that goes along with this is, "No one is more qualified to make desicions for yourself than you are." this is true throughout the book because once you say that you will bow down to the higher officials, then your life is over cause you basically just gave uo your own soul. People are to easilt trampled over and that has to stop, but then agian everyone is scared to face the truth and what the "truth" might do to them, as we see in the trials.","dateCreated":"1230054710","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"NikiTumminello","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/NikiTumminello","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990121","body":"I still agree with my previous statement of the difference between right and wrong is not always clear. There are just to many issues for me that do not have a clear cut right or wrong answer. This is because there can sometimes be an issue that has a double edge sword to it. Sometimes no matter what you choose someone or something will get hurt, and that leaves you with not knowing which choice is right. While i still hold tight in my opinion of this subject, after reading the crucible i think that it apparent that some choices are obvious. John Proctor expirienced this, he knew exactly what he had to do, and even though it would destroy him, he did what was right anyways.","dateCreated":"1230054732","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"breannakreutzer","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breannakreutzer","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/breannakreutzer-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990129","body":"Well, my previous comments and predictions still stand. The interpritations of God and his "good work" in the Crucible just further prove my point. Forcing one interpritation of the bible on people will always bring conflict, just as with John Proctor and Reverend Parris. Reverend Parris preached that God was violently angry at us all and we needed to repent, even though some of the congregation he was preaching to was said to be "damned from birth" with no hope of entering heaven at all. John, on the otherhand, didn't believe these teachings of fire and brimstone of gods wrath and didn't go to church on sundays as he was expected to. There are many different forms of religion today, allong with many different denominations of the Catholic church, including roman catholic, methodist, prodistent, and other similar religions that all stem from the bible. You will find that each of these religions will conflict with the other and this proves that the bible cannot be recieved in only one interpritation.","dateCreated":"1230054773","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"TLecho15","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/TLecho15","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266290360\/TLecho15-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"7990139","body":"Even after reading The Crucible, my thoughts have not changed. "The difference between right and wrong is always clear." There isn't always a fine-line that determines whether something is right or wrong. We all have different view points, beliefs, and things of the sort. In some cases I do believe the difference is clear, such as murder without cause. Obviously, that action is without question on the wrong side. What about war though? When someone take the life of another man to defend his\/her country... is that wrong or right? Is killing ANYONE or ANYTHING right?","dateCreated":"1230054817","smartDate":"Dec 23, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"Jeff_Kustra","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Jeff_Kustra","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266547516\/Jeff_Kustra-lg.jpg"}}],"more":24}]},{"id":"5369783","dateCreated":"1220958884","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"candithomson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/candithomson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/candithomson-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/thomsonenglish.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/5369783"},"dateDigested":1532287456,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"What is the point?","description":"As we finish reading the novel, we need to begin thinking about what themes might be contained in the book. What might be the point of the novel? How do you know? What evidence is provided?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"5527520","body":"Many of you seem to be saying that the book is about growing up. Tell me how Holden is doing with that? Is he growing up? Why or why not? Does he even WANT to grow up? Why or why not? Can anyone make sense out of "saving the innocent children" ?","dateCreated":"1221664648","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"candithomson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/candithomson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/candithomson-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5531734","body":"Upon finishing the novel, one will notice the point(s) in the book aren't exactly clear; the author doesn't make it obvious at all. (I wanted to use "innuendo" in that sentence! But it isn't really derogatory...) Holden was such a difficult character for me to fully understand. Personally, I think Holden has grown up in the sense that he IS learning about himself -- just at a very slow pace.","dateCreated":"1221675086","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"Jeff_Kustra","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Jeff_Kustra","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266547516\/Jeff_Kustra-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5534628","body":"what is the point of the book? well the point is that there is no real point to the book. the book is about a kids life that he seems to have problems with. but there is no climax to the book because there is not just one major climax to your life so there won't be one in the book because holden is talking about his life. there is no resolution, because if there was then holden would have to be dead, thats the only way to end the story of his life. if he doesn't die well then the true story is not over. the story started with holden being born so in order to end the story holden would have to die.","dateCreated":"1221685669","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"rachelheller","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/rachelheller","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220497351\/rachelheller-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5534808","body":"i feel that the this book has more than just one theme. but i feel the most important theme is the journey. life is a journey we all most take. holdens journey seems to be one of the most interesting journeys anyone could take. he is on his own most of the time, yet he hates being alone. he takes himself alround new york at random hours of the day\/night deepending on his emotions. but not only is this a physical journey its also an emotional and psychological journey too. he talks to himself alot and seems to think that everyone is a phony or a morron, yet he doesn't seem to like to admit that he too can be phony. like when he meets strangers he pretends to be older and have a different name, hes being phony by not telling the truth. so in not telling others the truth he is protecting himself from the truth that way he won't have to live with reality. he is one that likes to push people away, but he never really wants to. it seems like he is trying to protect others from getting to know the real him so that way he can't get hurt by them, yet pushing them away hurts him in a sence that he hates to be alone.","dateCreated":"1221686152","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"rachelheller","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/rachelheller","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220497351\/rachelheller-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5535200","body":""saving the inocent children"? well to me that means that since they are so young that they really are inocent and that they don't know any better like he does since he is older. but i think what he means by "saving the inocent children"is not litterally saving them from like falling on the ground or from cutting themselves with sissors. i think its more about him being able to save them from making bad decisions and to keep them doing the right things before it is to late to save them an keep them inocent. he wants to be the one to show them that what he did was wrong an that they still have time to do the right thing before it gets to the point were its hard to fix.
\nbut im not even really sure if this is right.","dateCreated":"1221687579","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"rachelheller","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/rachelheller","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220497351\/rachelheller-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5541288","body":"In my opinion, i think the the point of the book is to reach out to kids who maybe feeling the same as Holden. I mean not as bad as him with the way he acts and such, but the way he looks at school. i think the author is trying to show people that if you dont have the right look on life, you'll end up being lost with no friends and never have anywhere to go.","dateCreated":"1221700984","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"mikehoffmann32","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mikehoffmann32","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266209563\/mikehoffmann32-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5566664","body":"I really don't see what i can get out of this novel. I thought the main character was an annoying kid who just complaines all the time. He worries more about what other people are doing rather than things he should actually be worrying about(like school). I guess right now if there was one thing I could get out of this novel it would be to do well in school and try so I don't fail out like Holden, because the way he is going, he is going to have and unsuccessfull future.","dateCreated":"1221788867","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"shannaszramowski","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/shannaszramowski","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5574088","body":"I still feel like the point of the novel isn't to clear. Also, im not too sure if i could really learn anything from this book either. If anything it would be to have a positive look on life so i don't end up alone, but other than that I'm not too sure. However, the book was not too terrible to read. It had some funny parts and other parts that i wouldn't think I'd ever be reading about in school.","dateCreated":"1221832416","smartDate":"Sep 19, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"mikehoffmann32","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mikehoffmann32","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266209563\/mikehoffmann32-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5574102","body":"I think Max has a very good point. I never really found a high point in the book pretty much because there wasn't one. He nevery had anything really positive happen to him and it's because of his poor outlook on his life. He needs to understand that eventhough he may not like what he has to do, he has to do it because it's going to keep him in line and lead him to a good life.","dateCreated":"1221832440","smartDate":"Sep 19, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"johnlichina","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnlichina","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/johnlichina-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5574352","body":"I feel that the point of the novel is to show that in the lives of many teenagers, we feel that we are mature enough to handle with the situations that we might face in the real world, we feel that we are mature and ready to be independent. We sometimes getting the feeling that our parents are holding us back from our true potential. Holden felt like he was a mature adult, we believed he was mature enough to handle the topic of sex, living on his own and being an independent individual of society. Yet, as the novel progress Holden is far from mature and very childish, he acts immaturly when phazed with adult topics. HE realize that he cannot live on his own and he is truely not prepared for the "real world."","dateCreated":"1221833070","smartDate":"Sep 19, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"ty177","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ty177","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220537108\/ty177-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5575764","body":"I think the point of the novel is almost like Holden telling us his story, so that other people aren't like him. Like he doesn't want people to be like him. And that he is trying to warn people to not act like him, but be a better person. To make something of their lives. I think that he might fear, or it bothers him, to think of people turning into the same person he turned into.","dateCreated":"1221836817","smartDate":"Sep 19, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"WheresKirstenJ","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/WheresKirstenJ","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1206743829\/WheresKirstenJ-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5575822","body":"I agree with Max also. Like Holden should have had somewhat of a positive outlook on life, and himself, and then maybe something would have gone better. Then he wouldn't be so lonely, and depressed all the time. And I also think that he probably won't learn from his mistakes.","dateCreated":"1221836994","smartDate":"Sep 19, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"WheresKirstenJ","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/WheresKirstenJ","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1206743829\/WheresKirstenJ-lg.jpg"}}],"more":23}]},{"id":"5280025","dateCreated":"1220462338","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"breannakreutzer","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/breannakreutzer","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/breannakreutzer-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/thomsonenglish.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/5280025"},"dateDigested":1532287457,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"holden","description":"I think that holden is a very interesting character. He is not exactly like any other character we are used to reading about in school. He is an extremely round character in that he has so many traits about him seen in this book. He is very cynical, unmotivated, and distracted. At the same time however, he is ridiculously clever and cunning. I find the things that he says to be sarcastically witty and at the same time very cynical.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"5276621","dateCreated":"1220449682","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"candithomson","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/candithomson","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/candithomson-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/thomsonenglish.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/5276621"},"dateDigested":1532287457,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Holden","description":"So what do you think of Holden? What are some personality traits he displays (provide an example, please). What about his attitude?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"5282881","body":"I agree with Bobby that yes he is very lazy, but at the sam time he is a pretty intelligent kid. For one the note that he put on the history paper, and that he enjoys reading books. Just because he doesn't put any effort into school doesn't mean he is a dumb kid. His outlook on everything is pretty laid back.","dateCreated":"1220472873","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"adamselvaggio6","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/adamselvaggio6","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/adamselvaggio6-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5284315","body":"I just can't get over the fact that Holden is what like 16, 17 years of age and as I'm reading all the replies that say he is lazy, and that he targets people and that he gets mad quickly, you have to remember that though he is in some kind of "facility" he is really how most adolesents act, or in my view, Holden seems to act more mature than most of us if we were put in his same situation. Holden actually takes charge for himself and thinks through what he is going to do next, for example leaving Pencey and he doesn't even bother to call his parents for any money or advice, which in my head seems that he is pretty well off for caring for himself. But this was written a while ago and the world did change a bit so I basically just can't get over his age and how he acts for it...then again I might have just misinterpreted reading and missed something important.","dateCreated":"1220477414","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"NikiTumminello","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/NikiTumminello","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5284775","body":"i actually disagree with shanna. I actually like holden. I think that how he has an opinion on everyone is actually interesting. Everyone looks at other people and has an opinion, his is just for the most part pestimistic.","dateCreated":"1220478950","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"caseycarr","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/caseycarr","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5288587","body":"Kenton makes a good point as Holden trys to pretend he doesnt care when he actually does. He does his best to play things off cool like its not a big deal all the time","dateCreated":"1220490126","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"johnlichina","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/johnlichina","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1202793136\/johnlichina-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5289067","body":"I see what Casey means about Holden having an opinion on everyone is interesting. Most kids our age would most likely have opinions on everything but most of us would not say what our opinions are to anyone except maybe our parents and Holden gives his opinion on anything at anytime. I almost have repect for him for that. I aslo disagree with everyone trying to diagnos Holden with some mental disorder, I think he is just, like Adam said, too laid back to really care about trying at anything.","dateCreated":"1220491337","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"toddbrown31","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/toddbrown31","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220539934\/toddbrown31-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5289977","body":"i could see where casey would think that holden is interesting, and in a way he kind of is considering he is very different from most people. i guess i just dont like him very much because for some reason he really annoys me.","dateCreated":"1220494339","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"shannaszramowski","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/shannaszramowski","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5290685","body":"i agree with mostly what everyone is saying. Most people are saying he is very intelligent, but he is just isn't motivated at all. I think he would do very well in school if he tried. However, it seems that he just sees himself above school and all of it.","dateCreated":"1220496738","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"mikehoffmann32","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mikehoffmann32","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1266209563\/mikehoffmann32-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5290725","body":"I think Holden likes to be alot of things, he likes to be lazy with school work eventhough if he really wanted to he could do it and be very good at it, hes very opinionated about everything, he likes to think that he doesnt care about anyone but himself yet he cared enought to go see his teacher Mr. Spencer to say goodbye, he is very short tempered to certain things. but really i feel everyone has some of these traits and that in way we are all a little bit of holden.","dateCreated":"1220496877","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"rachelheller","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/rachelheller","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220497351\/rachelheller-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5290893","body":"I agree with most people in the fact that Holden is very lazy and does not apply himself at all. He is a very smart kid, but just simply does not care. He just goes about life to his own beat of the drum, and does not think about what others do.","dateCreated":"1220497495","smartDate":"Sep 3, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"EmilyGorcsan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/EmilyGorcsan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5295261","body":"i aslo agree with mike, in that he is a very brillant and bright student, that is not motivated in academics. I think this is becasue he enjoys being rebilous, he likes to be differnt. In a sense he is feels that he is too smart to waste his time in school and feels that all other people are not as good as he is, in the way he constantly points out flaws in others and picks on peoples personalities.","dateCreated":"1220536795","smartDate":"Sep 4, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"ty177","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ty177","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1220537108\/ty177-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5295267","body":"Holden is the kind of person who does'nt care about much, however there are a few things that he does care aobut he is obsessed with. for example when he was at his teachers house and the teach kept throwing papers at the desk and missing Holden could'nt stop thinking about how he wished he would just stop throwing things. Or when Ackley is touching the things on Holdens desk and putting them in the wrong place Holden gets mad about that. So I think that Holden does'nt care aobut much but does care about some things.","dateCreated":"1220536850","smartDate":"Sep 4, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"MaxBondi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MaxBondi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"5295301","body":"I agree with kenton because he really does care about some things he just pretends not to. I also agree with John L because Holden is a laid back kind of guy and thats what he says.","dateCreated":"1220537139","smartDate":"Sep 4, 2008","userCreated":{"username":"MaxBondi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MaxBondi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/ssl.wikicdn.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":32}]}],"more":false},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}